Season 19 Round 6 / 60
Game Time 2022 Oct 02, 14:05 UTC(+00:00)
Experience Benchmarking
Michael
2022-08-12 01:58 Edited by Michael at 2022-08-12 02:03
I thought it might be good to have an Experience benchmarking opportunity. As we've hit week 30 and a number of teams will have exhausted their Experience gaining custom games it might be a good time to see what differences teams have.

I play the same team for league and custom games and my Exp games range from 3 (old players with 60+ exp) to 7 (young players with exp less than 40). Team Exp average around 40.

I substitute my latest two youth players 45 mins each and they'r both +6 so playing time at 50% not a big impact
Don-x
2022-08-12 04:46
Wow yours are big, i don't know whats wrong with mine.
Will observe mine now.
Don-x
2022-08-12 05:35
My gk got 4xp from all matches so far about 8 custom matches remain.
The rest are 4/5, though partly feature in first team matches.
While my three yths i'm using frequently has 6xp, a bit shocking considering they almost play 70min average in first team games.
Most shocking and annoying are my loan out kids with just 4xp each, imo why this low compare to other clubs.
My first team has an average of 65xp if all criteria are met for my yth subs.
Then 67xp-72xp average xp for games and 50xp-55xp custom games.
Without 90min for young players in league games is unlikely i will see 8xp for three of them, while the rest will stop at 5xp/6xp.
Its shame but the top teams already has 9xp-10xp from only custom matches for their players, its a gap and advantage they have over us all.
punkska
2022-08-12 11:41
My 3 prospects have +6 xp each on the season, and that's without playing them much in league games. Now at 29, 32, 36
1 more prospect/1st teamer has a +6, and most older players I use are around +4
Looking at my latest lineups my friendly lineup is around 50xp average, and my league one 54
Fathima
2022-08-12 13:41
It is better to loan out the highest xp players from your youth and keep the lowest ones in your own team for custom matches. Low xp players will gain more xp from matches and that will in turn give your loaned out players more xp too
howie1234
2022-08-12 14:28
I'm attempting to train 6 players (all with a potential over 90) who are between the ages of 18 and 20. I've played 3 of them in most of my first team matches (taking the expected hit on results) and the others in my first 30 friendlies. The XP gains so far this season have been 4, 5, 5, 6, 9 and 10.

I think 6 is probably too many players to try and train at one time if you want decent XP gains, so I may have to have a rethink about my training plans.
Michael
2022-08-12 15:18
howie1234 wrote :
I'm attempting to train 6 players (all with a potential over 90) who are between the ages of 18 and 20. I've played 3 of them in most of my first team matches (taking the expected hit on results) and the others in my first 30 friendlies. The XP gains so far this season have been 4, 5, 5, 6, 9 and 10.

I think 6 is probably too many players to try and train at one time if you want decent XP gains, so I may have to have a rethink about my training plans.

Have the 9 and 10 played in both league and custom games - your high overall Exp would explain the higher result if so, but if they've only played one or the other that is a bigger impact than I would have expected
Don-x
2022-08-12 19:23 Edited by Don-x at 2022-08-12 20:00
My 2 loans players are low xp @fathima
Seems that theres something i'm missing.
Lets say its base on opponents that i'm getting lower xp
Mr. Ske 🔥
2022-08-24 17:44
Most EXP gained this season = https://www.f4football.com/players/show/145002
+12 EXP

Most training points this season = https://www.f4football.com/players/show/167966
+105 points and will still increase until the end

Most value increase = https://www.f4football.com/players/show/185873
+24mil over season
Don-x
2022-08-24 19:27
Don't know, why does loan players get lower xp compare to the ones playing in first team.
Seems friendly matches don't add to the xp gain while one loan.
@mr ske gk gain just 6xp, my cb/wf gain just 6 while on loan.
Those that played just 30 custom games at my club gain 6xp.
On loan players are suppose to gain xp from 30 custom matches/30 league matches 60 games. But this is not the case.
Fathima
2022-08-25 05:09
Don-x wrote :
Don't know, why does loan players get lower xp compare to the ones playing in first team.
Seems friendly matches don't add to the xp gain while one loan.
@mr ske gk gain just 6xp, my cb/wf gain just 6 while on loan.
Those that played just 30 custom games at my club gain 6xp.
On loan players are suppose to gain xp from 30 custom matches/30 league matches 60 games. But this is not the case.

Because they get average of xp gained by all players. Low xp youth playing with high xp players will gain more, but those high xp players will gain less. So the xp gained by your loaned players will be always less than what your youths gain.
Fathima
2022-08-25 11:03
My top xp gains this season:
Paolo Henly 29 CB 67.14 72 +7
Gayle Agostinho 25 WB 60.29 61 +8
Ubaid Trochowski 20 WM 49.67 38 +10
Imran Cesar 22 AM 55.55 45 +9
Kiki Bridges 19 WF 37.39 24 +11
Don-x
2022-08-25 13:38
My top 4 are
Pouncheon +10
Jorge +8
Illaramendi +8
Buckingham +7.
The rest are +7 and +6, and few below 6.
Buckingham (xp24) will be loaned out this season, so therefore +6 on the horizon for him (30xp) expected. Poor boy sorry, you started your career too late.
As for my two dm pouncheon (xp40) and philip (xp39), two great players but philip will miss out on regular matches again, i've few squad yet giving players xp is a problem.
Michael
2022-08-26 03:06
Mr. Ske ⚽ wrote :
Most EXP gained this season = https://www.f4football.com/players/show/145002
+12 EXP

Most training points this season = https://www.f4football.com/players/show/167966
+105 points and will still increase until the end

Most value increase = https://www.f4football.com/players/show/185873
+24mil over season

My highest Exp was +10 which although down on yours I am conscious that I am probably training more players which was a known trade-off and one I'm happy enough with so far based on these benchmarks.

My highest skill point increase was 96 although not as good as your 19 year old so I think that's the element of my approach that I am most concerned about. My comparable trainees of that skill point are older and have a lot lower increases as a result - like half as much.

I have perhaps concentrated too much on stadium (currently increasing to 40K) rather than training (lvl 13) and especially youth centre (lvl 3).

It's good info though that I hope is helpful to others as well
Don-x
2022-08-26 09:28
@michael
Its good to channel your progress on one strategy stadium development more money to buy high xp players more quick to challenge but without a continental qualification you lose out on cool cash.
30k st is likely enough if you want a long term strategy youth/training development.
But all in all we shall arrive in one pot, base on facilities not position to utilize our high stadium.
Chika Fujiwara
2022-08-26 19:50 Edited by Chika Fujiwara at 2022-08-26 19:51
Noticed Almost All My Loaned Players last seasons Gained +6(Koyasu, and like 5 More others), It happen only to me? Or it happen To other ones?
Don-x
2022-08-26 19:59
You mean you loan 6 players and they all gain +6xp
Chika Fujiwara
2022-08-26 20:16
Don-x wrote :
You mean you loan 6 players and they all gain +6xp

Yeah, That's I mean
Don-x
2022-08-26 20:43
How is that posible to loan 6 players in a season @chika.
Well my loan players and Mr Ske gk that i loaned all got +6xp.
My total xp by all players for the season is about +113.
Chika Fujiwara
2022-08-27 23:24
Don-x wrote :
How is that posible to loan 6 players in a season @chika.
Well my loan players and Mr Ske gk that i loaned all got +6xp.
My total xp by all players for the season is about +113.

I'm Talking Last 6 players, On about 4-5 seasons