HoudeRat
I haven't been around long, but I think the same thing happened to me after my first season, and then again after my first season at level 1.1. I think perhaps we just get a boost to help us out when we start or advance to another level, and what you are seeing now is normal. I haven't yet been demoted (knock on wood), so I'm not sure you would get the same boost again if you advanced to another level a second time.
Tegimus
2023-07-13 13:35
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2023-07-13 13:37
Sponsor deals are not random, there are two parts to its calculation:
1. Fixed Amount: This includes the upfront amount and the amount per round. The maximum fixed amount available is based on your average league rating. However the total fixed amount will vary slightly based on the sponsor, a sponsor offering the highest upfront amount will give the least total fixed amount and vice versa. All teams in a given league can achieve the same total fixed amount.
2. Amount based on achievements: Includes the league position bonus and win bonus.
League position bonus is calculated based on your team's average rating compared to the average rating of your league. This amount will be lower if you are more likely to finish higher in that league. So this will be higher for weaker teams and lower for stronger teams.
Win bonus is calculated based on how many league wins you are likely to get. Similar to the league position bonus, this amount is also much higher for weaker teams, but the total win bonus per season might be higher for a stronger teams since they have the potential to win more games.
In your case, you can see the the fixed amount has actually gone up which means your league's average rating has increased compared to last season. But league position bonus and win bonus a lower for you since you are much better this season than other teams in your league and can achieve a higher league position and more wins comparatively easier than last season.
Floyd007
to confirm the system is working right, i have moved up, from a 55 rated div 2, to a 70 rated div 1. Looks like win bonus and league position is working correctly (10 to 15mil most position, and 2 to 4x the win bonus).
the upfront cost has gone from the biggest being 26.8m upfront(with 446k per round) and smallest being 8m(win of 821k), with round being inversed, to max 35.3m (588k) and 10.5m(1.08m). These don't seem that big a swing considering the massive increase in wages (total per season looks about 15million more, divided by 60 is 250k more per round). Feels like the basic income is not increasing that much.
Engin Demir
Thank you Tegimus for the detailed explanation.
To sum up: You get less as you get better.
@Floyd007, Everything you said is completely irrelevant to the conversation. Seems like you didn't understand the topic.
Fathima
2023-07-13 19:25
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2023-07-13 19:26
I think my point is not still clear. It is by no means penalizing a team for winning. It is just division of a certain amount by expected wins. The confusion arises because the amount is paid per win instead of a fixed total amount per season for getting x wins.
Say a sponsor wants to pay 5m as total win bonuses and they expect the team to win 5 matches. So instead of saying "5m will be paid if you win atleast 5 matches", they say "we pay you 1m per win".
Then next season they see that the team has improved and are ready to pay 6m total (1m more). But the team is now capable of winning atleast 10 matches(expected wins). So they say "we pay you 600k per win" instead of "we pay you 6m for winning atleast 10 matches".
In the second case, the sponsor is actually paying more. But if team overachieves in the first case, they can earn more which is causing this confusion. It is not paying less for improving, it is paying more for overachieving the targets.
Michael
I tend to see it more as a Normal case and a Yikes you're going to struggle so we'll throw you a bone case
It is incredibly unlikely in the real world that sponsors have any bonuses below tournament winning/positioning level, but this is a game and teams that are outgunned in their leagues need additional support.
Engin Demir
This season it got even worse. I'll be getting less even if I become the league champion 😂
The sponsors are severely punishing me for getting better. Shame on them 😜
Fathima
But your team history says you made 50m profit last season despite having a "worse deal". I dont think match revenue makes that big a difference, and you didn't sell any players either.